Unschooling Voices (last minute) reminder

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Unschooling Voices #4

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Unschooling Voices (last minute) reminder

October’s question: Unschooling Math: If you’re like me and went to public school, you grew up being taught math from a text book. Now, as an unschooling parent, how do you live math when you’ve been conditioned to think of math in school terms. How do you go from one to the other?

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How do you live math? : One day at a time ;) In the world that I live in math is all around me.

There are sales taxes to be calculated. 14% in New Brunswick.

Land here is officially measured in square metres but otherwise measured in acres. A hectare is 10,000 square metres and an acre is 43,560 square feet. There are 2.47 acres in a hectare.

Gas is sold in litres. Odometers measure in kilometres. Gas mileage is discussed in miles per gallon. There are 4.54 litres in a Canadian gallon. 100 miles is approximately 161 km.

I have a household budget to maintain, interest to pay on borrowed money, retirement to save for, etc. I’m renovating a house. There are materials to buy, quantities to be calculated. Whether or not we let other people (or technology) do it for us, math is all around us.

How do you go from one to the other? : For Emma, the only tool we bought specifically to help her learn math is cuisenart rods. The rods are fun and I’ve already made a fair number of interesting designs and structures with them but I expect she will learn math mostly from a hefty pile of coins and things like lego. But our primary method of ‘teaching’ her math will be letting her see us do everyday math.

Although 13 years ago we were not doing it this way, we migrated to what I consider a foolproof approach to teaching math. Don’t introduce the ‘school’ math until they already know how to do the math. Once they can add then show them paper addition. Once they can subtract then show them paper subtraction. Both geometry and algebra are amazingly easy subjects to explain when the person you are explaining them to is someone who can do arithmetic and enjoys it.

If I were to offer advice to a parent looking to teach their children math it would be to do math. There are an endless number of fascinations and games in math. :)

Thought of the week

It seems that I’ve wound down to about 1 insightful (not inciteful) post a week. All of the driving and being away from family is wearing me down in terms of new ideas for thought provoking posts. Fortunately, all of you are still visiting here and leaving me comments which give me things to think about. And while I’m driving I do get a good chance to think. The issue tends to be more one of having the mental energy to write. For this post, I have to thank Kim who left a comment below. Here is the excerpt of her comment that gave me some food for thought:

… I believe now, that some people need more help than repetition based on their motivation to learn how to do so. It is about 10% of the population and they need spelling guidelines, sadly, which most of us never needed to think about. Sorry to rant, but I just wanted to bring it up because dyslexics are often underrepresented in the homeschooling world.

As is quite often the case with me and a comment the things that come to mind are not really a response to the comment. More often than not my train of thought rebounds from the comment and heads off in a different direction. In my early career, synergy was a buzz word everyone was using to describe it.

I’m going to start by saying I have a very low opinion of repetition as a method of learning. I’m going to differentiate repetition from practice. Practice is trying to do something over and over again until you have mastered it. Repetition is doing something over and over again period. I don’t expect that my children (or anyone else’s) will learn from repetition. They do learn from practice. In this instance, I don’t expect Emma will learn to spell from us spelling for her over whatever period of time. Instead, by enabling her to communicate, we are giving her a skill that she will want to keep. Eventually she will be in a spot where we are not there to be a crutch to that skill. It may take her quite a while (possibly years), but she will work it out.

TBH, my spelling is brutal on first pass at a word. But, I’m a better than average speller because mispelled words do not look right to me. Some words take a half dozen changes before they do look right. I’ve read a few thousand books. I’ve seen nearly all of the words I use in writing in print thousands of times. Up until a certain point in my life if I wanted to write something I had to have a dictionary with me. And I’m confident that as long as my children develop a taste for reading they will be able to do the same thing I did.

For a moment allow me to digress into a little rant on repetition. In one of my programming classes, I would give the students the option of write a program called knight’s tour in lieu of other assignments. The object of the program is for it to be given a spot somewhere on the chess board and the program would find a path for the knight to move (the knight moves in an L) around the entire chess board using each square only once.

There are two approaches to solving that problem. The first is to evaluate the board and based on the things you know about the board and the movement of the knight. Using that knowledge you build into the program a set of rules it will use to determine which of the available moves is most likely to lead to a solution. There are a few sets of rules that work really well and a solution will be found on first try.

The second way is to have the program try randomly until it finds a solution. This does work eventually. It would probably take 5 to 10 minutes on the computers you are using. Among programmers this is called ‘brute force’ programming. And I believe that educational methods which rely primarily on repetition are brute force education. Nearly every math curriculum I’ve seen has been brute force.The thought behind it is that eventually the kid will learn it through sheer repetition. The curriculum itself makes no effort to accomodate itself to the learning needs, abilities or interests of the child.

The other thing that Kim mentioned was dyslexia. I have a few thoughts on learning disabilities (LD) in general. the first one I would like to tackle is ADD. Now, we have to realize up front that children are born with varying strengths and weaknesses. It’s one of the things that make us individuals. In those strengths and weaknesses there are going to be some who have weak control over their attention.

I had a student who I believe was ADD. During the first test I gave him, in the first 10 minutes or so he wrote like crazy on the test paper. Every once in a while he would stare off into the corner of the room for a few seconds while he thought about the question he was working on and then write some more. Somewhere between 10 and 15 minutes, he looked off in the corner. As best as I could tell he did not move from that position for over an hour. After every other person had handed in their test, he was still there. I had to say his name 3 times to get his attention. Because of the expression on his face when he looked around, I’m as sure as I’m sitting here that until then he had no idea that any of his 40+ classmates had left. To the point where he stopped on the test, he got 100%. The remainder was blank.

8 months later he was in his fourth class with me. He didn’t miss a thing through any of my 2 hour classes. There were often times I would reexplain things for him or answer questions. I’m convinced that the main 2 differences were that he was interested in what I was teaching and that it was not repetitive. I did not teach the same things twice. It was a transformation that took time as well. Do I think he was ‘cured’? No. I’m sure that he still deals with his weak attention control today.

A second LD which is ‘growing’ is ADHD. I don’t know what your experience has been, but every child I’ve met who had been diagnosed as ADHD had a very active mind that was always on the go. I would expect that an ongoing diet of repetition is a brutal assault on an active mind. The second tidbit I have on ADHD comes from a workshop I attended 3 years ago on LD. There was a study which showed that up to a certain age (8-10) dyslexia was often misdiagnosed as ADHD.

Finally, I’d like to write my thoughts on dyslexia. First, I’m going to tell you some interesting facts about dyslexia and dyslexics. Then, I have a story and I’ll finish with some thoughts I have on the subject.

  1. NASA recruits dyslexics. The statistic I was given in the workshop mentioned above is that over 50% of their staff are dyslexic.
  2. A substantial number of children exihibit symptoms of dyslexia at ages 5-6.
  3. The majority of the children above (I believe about 2/3) lose the symptoms by age 8.
  4. I have a CD at home of a workshop given by a doctor specializing in learning disabilities. I’m going to paraphrase what she said regarding the studies she had participated in in the study of dyslexia:

    Medically there is only one way that she had found that would differentiate between a young dyslexic and non dyslexic child. The fact that a young child showed symptoms of dyslexia was not an indication that they were dyslexic. The medical test consists of monitoring the child’s brain with an EEG while giving it a test. Not a medical test but a school test like spelling. What the EEG shows is the degree and type of stress the child experiences.

The story: A few weeks ago, Emma and I were drawing and writing on letter paper. The marker I was using was a black sharpie (permanent ink). Since we were making them for each other the last thing we did was fold them up so the other person could open it. When Emma opened the one I did for her she opened it up so that she was looking at the back of the sheet. Because I’d done it with the sharpie the ink had soaked through the paper and she could see what I had done. She looked at it for a few seconds and turned to Andrea and said, ‘it says …’ And she was right. Not only were the letters backwards, but the sentence went right to left. Until Andrea told her she had no idea that she was looking at the wrong side of the page. She’s 5. Am I concerned that she may be dyslexic? No.

I think that many children are able to do similar things when they are in that age range. IMO, dyslexia is only a disability in school. I believe that dyslexics can mentally flip things around on the fly and whether it is a b or a d does not slow them down. It’s when they are under pressure to pick the one that we recognize as being right that a problem surfaces. The fact that young children spell would ‘woulb’ doesn’t mean they don’t know how it’s spelled. It might say that they are brighter and more capable than we are.

And that is my 2 cents worth.

Unschooling Voices, etc.

Unschooling voices is up.

Tonight Andrea logged onto the chat program to say goodnight. Within a couple minutes, Emma also popped on. Yes, she’s 5 and has her own chat profile. So far as I know, I’m the only person she has chatted with. When I noticed her on, I sent her a ‘hello Emma’ and waited. A few minutes later she sent a full correctly spelled sentence telling me something that was important to her about her day. Before she was done she had sent me 3 or 4 more full sentences all spelled correctly.

Andrea told me after that she had asked for help with the spelling. You see, for quite a few months, she had been using her own version of phonetics to write things. But there were times when we misunderstood what she was writing. In the last month or so, she has changed her strategy by getting us to help her spell what she wants to write.

It’s come back to me again tonight how silly it is to set out to teach children a bunch of skills with the intention that once they have learned all of them they will be able to communicate. A child learns to talk because the child wants to communicate. When they are first learning to talk we don’t, “no, no, no you say that word this way and until you can say it that way we are not going to introduce the next word to you.” The secret to teaching a child to read, write and communicate is to accept the ability they currently have and understand that at some point their desire to understand and be understood will push them to develope those skills until they are every bit as proficient at them as the people around them. And for the abilities that they currently lack, compensate for them in the same way you do before they are potty trained, before they can dress themselves and before they can feed themselves.

Honestly, the only way I can imagine that someone seeking to understand child education could not see that is if they view the child as the object of education.

Reminder

This week is the deadline for Unschooling Voices.

Tonight I looked after a bunch of other stuff and hope to be catching up online tomorrow night. I have gotten to any of the comments left since Thursday night. Actually, this is the fiurst time (outside of work) that I’ve sat in front of a computer for more than a couple minutes since Thursday. A flu or virus is going throug hthe household. Yesterday was Meaghan’s day to feel like sleeping the entire day and it was Andrea today.

Call for submissions

Homeschool Country Fair

Between Carrie and Andrea I had an idea. Since non homeschooled kids are off to school over the next few weeks, this is often the time of year when HS parents get a barrage of questions/discussion with parties who haven’t given alot of thought to what they are asking/saying. I’m interested in doing a post of links to blog posts with answers to such questions. How does ‘homeschooling for dummies’ sound? If it strikes you as something fun and different, leave me a link in the comments. I’ll try to do the post on Sunday night.

Update: You can email me links at ron at atypicalhomeschool dot net. You can write something new or send me a links to posts you have already written. I had in mind the ‘subject for dummies’ series of books which approach the subject as though the reader starts out knowing nothing about it. That thought came to mind mostly because the 2 posts mentioned above reminded me of conversations I’ve had with people who could use a ‘homeschooling for dummies’ book. But, I’m not particularly stuck on that. If you would like to write something which is sarcastic or funny, please do. Although, my kids (and possibly others’) read this blog and if it’s not clean I won’t link to it.

Deadline? I plan on posting on Sunday night, so I would need the submission by early evening Sunday (eastern time).

Children: Products or People?

Carlotta penned the title in an excellent post. In New Brunswick (I assume it’s all of Canada, but I only know NB for certain) the current fad in educational theory is something called ‘outcome based learning’.

The ‘idea’ behind outcome based learning is that you define the education based on the qualities (skills) that you want the student to have at the end. And, in so doing, you must be prepared to accept at the beginning any student (any skill level, aptitude, base knowledge). On the surface, it may seem to be a noble undertaking to redesign education so that anyone can take the program of study. But, in reality, the student ceases to be regarded (or even taken into account) as a person. They become a product to the educational program.If they graduate, they are a product of the educational program. The only way to ensure that educators can ensure the predefined outcome is to restructure the educational program in such a way that the student is the object of the process.

A Day in Our Lives: Unschooling Voices #2

A Day in Our Lives: Unschooling Voices #2 is UP!

Unschooling and parenting

Unschooling Voices #2 (August issue) will soon be published. The optional August question is, “Do you extend the principles of unschooling (trust, freedom, etc) into any other areas of your child’s life?”. (Details on submitting blog posts) When I first saw the question, I thought to myself, “What a good question. I’d love to answer that.”

But when I had given it some thought (and I do have time to think about such things while driving to and from home on the weekends), I realized that, except in a tangental sense, I couldn’t answer it. In fact, given the way I approach most things that I do in life, it seems an odd sort of question. It occurred to me that a good illustration of my approach to life would be a discussion Andrea and I had a few years ago.

At the time, she was a member of an online moms forum which had a section set aside for attachment parenting. Over an extended period of time we had a fair number of conversations about threads on attachment parenting. Finally, because these discussions had piqued my curiousity, I asked her, “What’s attachment parenting?”

Her explanation started with, “What we do…”

You see, I’m not really the sort of person who reads up on various theories and methodologies and says, “Ah well, that’s a great theory/methodology.” And I really did not understand what unschooling was about and why it worked, etc. until I was already doing it. Realistically, in our early stages of unschooling, I would never have described us as unschoolers.

The reality is that unschooling does not extend into other areas of our children’s lives. Instead, through time, our parenting principles (trust, responsibility, maturity, etc.) inserted themselves into our educational strategy. No one will become responsible without responsibility being delegated to them. No one will become mature without the freedom to make choices. The inherent message in controlling, watching/supervising, evaluating and testing is that object of the control cannot be trusted, is immature and iresponsible. A child that always has to wait for an authority to tell it what he/she is supposed to do next cannot learn diligence. A very necessary component of diligence is initiative.

What I’ve said in the paragraph above was obvious to me for a long time before I recognized that what we were doing educationally was contrary to our overall parenting strategy. I don’t think it is particularly necessary for me to describe in minute detail what we were setting out to achieve as parents.

What I recognized several years ago was that the most valuable thing we had done toward that end had nothing to do with our choice in curriculum. We have given our children thousands of hours of free time that their publicly schooled counterparts were deprived of. We delegate things to them by which they learn responsibility. We trust them. There is nothing particularly complicated in terms of the principles of what we are doing. For us, unschooling is a means to an end rather than being an end in and of itself.