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		<title>By: Tricotomania</title>
		<link>http://atypicalhomeschool.net/general-information/setting-up-for-creativity/comment-page-1/#comment-3390</link>
		<dc:creator>Tricotomania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Creativity I (or the absolute necessity of stash)...&lt;/strong&gt;

Andrea has written a really interesting post about creativity in the context of parents&#039; questions about how to encourage their children&#039;s creativity. Her post really triggered a lot of thinking about broader issues for me that I started to write...</description>
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<p>Andrea has written a really interesting post about creativity in the context of parents&#8217; questions about how to encourage their children&#8217;s creativity. Her post really triggered a lot of thinking about broader issues for me that I started to write&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: atypicalife.net &#187; Snippets &#38; pictures</title>
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		<dc:creator>atypicalife.net &#187; Snippets &#38; pictures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I made it slightly wider than the index cards, but not wide enough to take the sides into account, so the cards are a snug fit. Darn it, now I just have to make another one.  You can tell by the colors who I made it for, and yes it went over quite well indeed. It also ties in quite nicely with the post on creativy and children over in the homeschooling blog, and things Willa and Heidi are talking about. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I made it slightly wider than the index cards, but not wide enough to take the sides into account, so the cards are a snug fit. Darn it, now I just have to make another one.  You can tell by the colors who I made it for, and yes it went over quite well indeed. It also ties in quite nicely with the post on creativy and children over in the homeschooling blog, and things Willa and Heidi are talking about. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Tyrtle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Tyrtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo - I forget now who told me this the first time but it makes such a difference.  It is much easier and far more inspiring to work with quality materials.  Besides - what makes the grownups so special that they get all the good stuff.  Seriously - what kind of message does that send to the kids?

On an unrelated note: When you said &quot;You are expected to cook and present a meal, but you are not in a kitchen. Furthermore, you only have 3 kitchen tools to work with, a camp stove, and $13 worth of food.&quot; I thought &quot;I did that for several months!&quot; I&#039;m guessing you could probably say the same thing.  But it&#039;s still a great analogy - I am far more inspired to cook interesting food now than I was when I had those limitations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo &#8211; I forget now who told me this the first time but it makes such a difference.  It is much easier and far more inspiring to work with quality materials.  Besides &#8211; what makes the grownups so special that they get all the good stuff.  Seriously &#8211; what kind of message does that send to the kids?</p>
<p>On an unrelated note: When you said &#8220;You are expected to cook and present a meal, but you are not in a kitchen. Furthermore, you only have 3 kitchen tools to work with, a camp stove, and $13 worth of food.&#8221; I thought &#8220;I did that for several months!&#8221; I&#8217;m guessing you could probably say the same thing.  But it&#8217;s still a great analogy &#8211; I am far more inspired to cook interesting food now than I was when I had those limitations.</p>
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		<title>By: The Country Fair &#187; 5th Country Fair Open!</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Country Fair &#187; 5th Country Fair Open!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Do you have a tendency to avoid doing craft projects with your kids because you&#8217;ve been hording supplies for that elusive perfect project? Is it hard for you to let go and not direct your kids to glue and cut just-so? Andrea at Atypical Homeschool gives step-by-step instructions on Setting Up For Creativity. Let the fun begin! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Do you have a tendency to avoid doing craft projects with your kids because you&#8217;ve been hording supplies for that elusive perfect project? Is it hard for you to let go and not direct your kids to glue and cut just-so? Andrea at Atypical Homeschool gives step-by-step instructions on Setting Up For Creativity. Let the fun begin! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 02:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Andrea, you&#039;re so spot-on!  I catch myself all the time trying to get the girls to do it &#039;right&#039;.  I think I may have inherited just a tad of the genes my OCD sister has, and I have got to fight that tendency!!!  I also have a habit of waiting til just the right time to do crafts -- when it won&#039;t be too messy, when we have time to get the whole project done,  etc. instead of just doing it.  As a result, we don&#039;t do many crafts at all.  Could you throw some ideas out for 6-7 year olds?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Andrea, you&#8217;re so spot-on!  I catch myself all the time trying to get the girls to do it &#8216;right&#8217;.  I think I may have inherited just a tad of the genes my OCD sister has, and I have got to fight that tendency!!!  I also have a habit of waiting til just the right time to do crafts &#8212; when it won&#8217;t be too messy, when we have time to get the whole project done,  etc. instead of just doing it.  As a result, we don&#8217;t do many crafts at all.  Could you throw some ideas out for 6-7 year olds?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks all. I figured it would spark a couple of people. The very first time I noticed this sort of discrepancy was when I was a Sparks/Brownies leader. The head of the group kept insisting we do these really cute crafts for the girls that needed to be hot-glued, but she also insisted that we use her glue gun, which was too hot for most adults to use, and that only she could do the gluing. Every &quot;craft&quot; was pretty much pointless.

There are two ways aroudn this, for any passer-bys: use really good thick white glue for children&#039;s crafts. Kid&#039;s glue is only good for paper. Another way around is to pick up a few of the very cheap and low temp glue guns, which older children can use quite safely.

I also wrote in an email to someone that my grandmother had lots of craft things for me to use, but we had to be really frugal with it. Like powdered tempera paint. She made it so thin, so that it would last longer, that the colors were next to useless. Which I didn&#039;t realize until I was older, saw how CHEAP it was, and noted that I had literally inherited the twenty-year-old containers of paint powder.

And I promptly mixed it up thick and bright, and let the kids use the rest of it up. Why do we think it is a waste to use up things we buy to ... use up and make something with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks all. I figured it would spark a couple of people. The very first time I noticed this sort of discrepancy was when I was a Sparks/Brownies leader. The head of the group kept insisting we do these really cute crafts for the girls that needed to be hot-glued, but she also insisted that we use her glue gun, which was too hot for most adults to use, and that only she could do the gluing. Every &#8220;craft&#8221; was pretty much pointless.</p>
<p>There are two ways aroudn this, for any passer-bys: use really good thick white glue for children&#8217;s crafts. Kid&#8217;s glue is only good for paper. Another way around is to pick up a few of the very cheap and low temp glue guns, which older children can use quite safely.</p>
<p>I also wrote in an email to someone that my grandmother had lots of craft things for me to use, but we had to be really frugal with it. Like powdered tempera paint. She made it so thin, so that it would last longer, that the colors were next to useless. Which I didn&#8217;t realize until I was older, saw how CHEAP it was, and noted that I had literally inherited the twenty-year-old containers of paint powder.</p>
<p>And I promptly mixed it up thick and bright, and let the kids use the rest of it up. Why do we think it is a waste to use up things we buy to &#8230; use up and make something with?</p>
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		<title>By: Playing It By Ear &#187; Creativity in children</title>
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		<dc:creator>Playing It By Ear &#187; Creativity in children</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I have quite firm feelings about this subject, all beautifully articulated in Andrea&#8217;s most recent post, so I won&#8217;t write anything here, as there&#8217;s not much more to add!Ã‚Â  Go read it . [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I have quite firm feelings about this subject, all beautifully articulated in Andrea&#8217;s most recent post, so I won&#8217;t write anything here, as there&#8217;s not much more to add!Ã‚Â  Go read it . [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Clare</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this wonderful post which articulates everything I feel as well.  It must be pretty off-putting for children to be doing directed activities when it&#039;s so obvious to them who can do it the neatest and make it look more like the adults - how much more liberating to be enjoying the activity for what it is rather than focussing on the end product?  

In reply to JoVE - for our oldest&#039;s last Christmas present (she was 2.5 years old), I started a &#039;craft box&#039; for her - one of those huge plastic &#039;chests&#039; on wheels.  I bought loads of different types of paper and card, and went to a local toy-shop and a local craft shop and bought loads of things for making collages - coloured feathers, beads, foam letters etc. etc.  I bought loads of glue, brushes, paints - everything I could find for the budget we specified.  It&#039;s been the best present we&#039;ve ever given her and has been added to over and over again over the last months.  The girls get it out most days to do something or other - some days it&#039;s just drawing, some days it&#039;s painting and some days we go for the full-blown sticking activity.  Glitter&#039;s usually a favourite!  As they&#039;re so young, I always do it with them, but they get to choose what and, within reason, when they do it.  It&#039;s so delightful to see as our 18m old is doing things that my oldest could never do at that age, because simply because she has opportunities, having an older sister, that my oldest never had.  When we move, I plan to start increasing our stash with free collectables eg. milk bottle tops; yoghurt pots; anything I can find that I think the girls might enjoy.  It&#039;s huge fun for all of us and their purely self-directed collages and pictures are so much more attractive than anything we, or anyone else, has tried to get them to do!

Will be linking to this post, Andrea :-)

Cx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this wonderful post which articulates everything I feel as well.  It must be pretty off-putting for children to be doing directed activities when it&#8217;s so obvious to them who can do it the neatest and make it look more like the adults &#8211; how much more liberating to be enjoying the activity for what it is rather than focussing on the end product?  </p>
<p>In reply to JoVE &#8211; for our oldest&#8217;s last Christmas present (she was 2.5 years old), I started a &#8216;craft box&#8217; for her &#8211; one of those huge plastic &#8216;chests&#8217; on wheels.  I bought loads of different types of paper and card, and went to a local toy-shop and a local craft shop and bought loads of things for making collages &#8211; coloured feathers, beads, foam letters etc. etc.  I bought loads of glue, brushes, paints &#8211; everything I could find for the budget we specified.  It&#8217;s been the best present we&#8217;ve ever given her and has been added to over and over again over the last months.  The girls get it out most days to do something or other &#8211; some days it&#8217;s just drawing, some days it&#8217;s painting and some days we go for the full-blown sticking activity.  Glitter&#8217;s usually a favourite!  As they&#8217;re so young, I always do it with them, but they get to choose what and, within reason, when they do it.  It&#8217;s so delightful to see as our 18m old is doing things that my oldest could never do at that age, because simply because she has opportunities, having an older sister, that my oldest never had.  When we move, I plan to start increasing our stash with free collectables eg. milk bottle tops; yoghurt pots; anything I can find that I think the girls might enjoy.  It&#8217;s huge fun for all of us and their purely self-directed collages and pictures are so much more attractive than anything we, or anyone else, has tried to get them to do!</p>
<p>Will be linking to this post, Andrea <img src='http://atypicalhomeschool.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cx</p>
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		<title>By: Jax</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic post!

And corresponds with so many of my beliefs, for reasons I didn&#039;t even know until I read them.

:)</description>
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<p>And corresponds with so many of my beliefs, for reasons I didn&#8217;t even know until I read them.</p>
<p> <img src='http://atypicalhomeschool.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JoVE</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoVE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 15:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you say about adult creativity is so spot on. I am conscious of working on this myself. I also think it affect how many and what sort of craft supplies we have. Just look at all the discussions on knitting blogs about &#039;stash&#039;. Folks seem to feel really guilty about having lots of yarn in the house, much of it with no defined purpose. And yet, the really creative knitters have a huge amount of stash. This means that if they get an idea they can start working on it, no matter whether the stores are open. AND that when they don&#039;t have any ideas they can get (some of) the stash out, spread it out and look at it and feel it and be inspired. I frequently experience internal conflict about not having enough stash and not really &#039;needing&#039; any more yarn.

This has sparked other thoughts and I think maybe I should write about it on my own blog... Thanks for raising this question though. It is a really good and important post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you say about adult creativity is so spot on. I am conscious of working on this myself. I also think it affect how many and what sort of craft supplies we have. Just look at all the discussions on knitting blogs about &#8217;stash&#8217;. Folks seem to feel really guilty about having lots of yarn in the house, much of it with no defined purpose. And yet, the really creative knitters have a huge amount of stash. This means that if they get an idea they can start working on it, no matter whether the stores are open. AND that when they don&#8217;t have any ideas they can get (some of) the stash out, spread it out and look at it and feel it and be inspired. I frequently experience internal conflict about not having enough stash and not really &#8216;needing&#8217; any more yarn.</p>
<p>This has sparked other thoughts and I think maybe I should write about it on my own blog&#8230; Thanks for raising this question though. It is a really good and important post.</p>
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